Ten Little Chances to be Free (
tenlittlebullets) wrote2005-11-18 04:02 pm
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Also: The scale of fandom pairing plausibility meme, stolen from
petronelle via
mhari.
The Scale
0 - I really don't think these people would ever have mutually desirable sex or enter into a romantic relationship based on my textual interpretation of canon, and no one has yet convinced me otherwise. This may be because I don't want to be convinced.
1 - Given a bizarre enough setup, a good author can convince me that they might have sex or enter into a romantic relationship for the duration of the story, but as soon as I'm done, I'll go back to thinking they could never have sex or enter into a romantic relationship. In general, I don't want to see them in a relationship.
2 - They're clearly not having sex or a romantic relationship in canon, but they occasionally act, in my reading, as though they want to have sex or romance with each other. I generally don't think of it as likely.
3 - I think it's possible, based on canon, that they would have sex or enter into a romantic relationship. Sometimes, I choose to avoid that interpretation, and sometimes I choose to enjoy it.
4 - There is a lot of canon that I can interpret as these characters expressing desire for each other in a sexual or romantic sense, and there is only a little canon that contradicts this interpretation. I enjoy interpreting canon This may be because they have a strong emotional relationship in canon, or because they are pretty together.
5 - There is so much canon that I believe points toward the possibility and mutual desirability of a sexual relationship between them that I have trouble remembering it's not actually canon, even while I am reading that canon. This may be because I want it to be canon, or because I have metatextual knowledge of the creators' intentions about the characters.
6 - It's canon that they're having sex or are involved in a romantic relationship, and the vast majority of fans accept it, whether or not they like it.
Les Mis
0 - No way, no how: Enjolras/Eponine. The ultimate crack!pairing, except when people take it seriously. Really, WTF? They've never met; she's completely fixated on Marius; he's completely fixated on the revolution and doesn't even like girls. Stop pairing up characters just because they're pretty and they don't have an S.O.
1 - Convince me: Marius/Eponine. "Convince me" pretty much sums it up: present me with a good enough AU setup and I might believe it, but as things stood in canon, not gonna happen. I don't ship it, but I'd read it if it were well written. Which it almost never is.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Valjean/Javert. Obviously they have tension liek whoa in canon, but I usually don't think of it as sexual or romantic tension except in the sense that they both act completely asexual and are probably shunting any sexual energy into aggression towards one another. I can't picture them having sex and frankly I don't want to because that's a disturbing mental image, but I could be led to believe they've got a slashy vibe.
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Courfeyrac/Marius. I don't think they were presented as extremely slashy, but they were roommates, and Courfeyrac was an incorrgible flirt. (Not to mention "I've come to sleep with you" is canon, dammit.) Also Grantaire/Enjolras. Grantaire being madly in love with Enjolras is more like a 5 or a 6, but due to E's general bitchiness, asexuality, and dislike for Grantaire, it would take a bit of convincing to make it both plausible and mutual.
4 - They're probably doing it: Les Amis. Any of them, all of them. Perhaps this is just the natural reaction of an inveterate slasher when confronted with a room full of prettyboys, but somehow they all seem ambiguously gay in some way or another and Hugo doesn't do much to contradict this impression. (The pretty doesn't hurt either, though.)
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Unrequited Grantaire/Enjolras is a 5.5 for reasons that should be self-evident. And Joly/Bossuet/Musichetta... well.
6 - Canon: Awwww, wookit the kyuute widdle Marius and Cosette.
Phantom
0 - No way, no how: Erik/post-story OFC. No. Just... no. *sporks*
1 - Convince me: Erik/pre-story OFC. Has to be handled delicately, though, because one of the major points is that no one has ever shown him much affection, physically or emotionally. I can see him in a stormy and dysfunctional relationship in his youth, sorta, but please no pre-Christine Twoo Wuvs.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Erik/Raoul. Much, much slashier in the movie than anywhere else, and even there it's barely even subtext, but something must be made of all the double entendres in "Bravo, Monsieur."
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Christine/Meg, musical!verse. And I can just see poor, confused little Meg following Christine around like a lost puppy and being heartbroken when she discovers the whole Phantom brouhaha.
4 - They're probably doing it: In the newest movie? Erik/Mme Giry. HAHAHA, FANBRATS, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES. In the book, Erik/Persian.
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Managerslash. Nuff said.
6 - Canon: Raoul/Christine, with Erik/Christine clocking in at about a 5.8.
Star Wars
0 - No way, no how: Luke/Han. Just doesn't work for me--I never perceived them as anything other than really good friends.
1 - Convince me: Padme/Obi-Wan. Not generally my cup of tea, but I could certainly see them bonding over how impossible Anakin is.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Alliance High Command orgies. Yay tentacle porn.
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Palpatine/Anakin. Which might be a bit higher up on the scale if it didn't break my brain.
4 - They're probably doing it: Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan. They definitely loved each other, even if it wasn't a sexual relationship.
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Anakin/Obi-Wan. Painfully, bleedingly obvious. Also Luke/Leia, 'cause for kid-friendly movies there sure are a lot of plausible squick pairings.
6 - Canon: Han/Leia kicks Anakin/Padme's sorry behind.
The Scale
0 - I really don't think these people would ever have mutually desirable sex or enter into a romantic relationship based on my textual interpretation of canon, and no one has yet convinced me otherwise. This may be because I don't want to be convinced.
1 - Given a bizarre enough setup, a good author can convince me that they might have sex or enter into a romantic relationship for the duration of the story, but as soon as I'm done, I'll go back to thinking they could never have sex or enter into a romantic relationship. In general, I don't want to see them in a relationship.
2 - They're clearly not having sex or a romantic relationship in canon, but they occasionally act, in my reading, as though they want to have sex or romance with each other. I generally don't think of it as likely.
3 - I think it's possible, based on canon, that they would have sex or enter into a romantic relationship. Sometimes, I choose to avoid that interpretation, and sometimes I choose to enjoy it.
4 - There is a lot of canon that I can interpret as these characters expressing desire for each other in a sexual or romantic sense, and there is only a little canon that contradicts this interpretation. I enjoy interpreting canon This may be because they have a strong emotional relationship in canon, or because they are pretty together.
5 - There is so much canon that I believe points toward the possibility and mutual desirability of a sexual relationship between them that I have trouble remembering it's not actually canon, even while I am reading that canon. This may be because I want it to be canon, or because I have metatextual knowledge of the creators' intentions about the characters.
6 - It's canon that they're having sex or are involved in a romantic relationship, and the vast majority of fans accept it, whether or not they like it.
Les Mis
0 - No way, no how: Enjolras/Eponine. The ultimate crack!pairing, except when people take it seriously. Really, WTF? They've never met; she's completely fixated on Marius; he's completely fixated on the revolution and doesn't even like girls. Stop pairing up characters just because they're pretty and they don't have an S.O.
1 - Convince me: Marius/Eponine. "Convince me" pretty much sums it up: present me with a good enough AU setup and I might believe it, but as things stood in canon, not gonna happen. I don't ship it, but I'd read it if it were well written. Which it almost never is.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Valjean/Javert. Obviously they have tension liek whoa in canon, but I usually don't think of it as sexual or romantic tension except in the sense that they both act completely asexual and are probably shunting any sexual energy into aggression towards one another. I can't picture them having sex and frankly I don't want to because that's a disturbing mental image, but I could be led to believe they've got a slashy vibe.
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Courfeyrac/Marius. I don't think they were presented as extremely slashy, but they were roommates, and Courfeyrac was an incorrgible flirt. (Not to mention "I've come to sleep with you" is canon, dammit.) Also Grantaire/Enjolras. Grantaire being madly in love with Enjolras is more like a 5 or a 6, but due to E's general bitchiness, asexuality, and dislike for Grantaire, it would take a bit of convincing to make it both plausible and mutual.
4 - They're probably doing it: Les Amis. Any of them, all of them. Perhaps this is just the natural reaction of an inveterate slasher when confronted with a room full of prettyboys, but somehow they all seem ambiguously gay in some way or another and Hugo doesn't do much to contradict this impression. (The pretty doesn't hurt either, though.)
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Unrequited Grantaire/Enjolras is a 5.5 for reasons that should be self-evident. And Joly/Bossuet/Musichetta... well.
6 - Canon: Awwww, wookit the kyuute widdle Marius and Cosette.
Phantom
0 - No way, no how: Erik/post-story OFC. No. Just... no. *sporks*
1 - Convince me: Erik/pre-story OFC. Has to be handled delicately, though, because one of the major points is that no one has ever shown him much affection, physically or emotionally. I can see him in a stormy and dysfunctional relationship in his youth, sorta, but please no pre-Christine Twoo Wuvs.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Erik/Raoul. Much, much slashier in the movie than anywhere else, and even there it's barely even subtext, but something must be made of all the double entendres in "Bravo, Monsieur."
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Christine/Meg, musical!verse. And I can just see poor, confused little Meg following Christine around like a lost puppy and being heartbroken when she discovers the whole Phantom brouhaha.
4 - They're probably doing it: In the newest movie? Erik/Mme Giry. HAHAHA, FANBRATS, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES. In the book, Erik/Persian.
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Managerslash. Nuff said.
6 - Canon: Raoul/Christine, with Erik/Christine clocking in at about a 5.8.
Star Wars
0 - No way, no how: Luke/Han. Just doesn't work for me--I never perceived them as anything other than really good friends.
1 - Convince me: Padme/Obi-Wan. Not generally my cup of tea, but I could certainly see them bonding over how impossible Anakin is.
2 - It's vaguely possible: Alliance High Command orgies. Yay tentacle porn.
3 - I can see it, sometimes: Palpatine/Anakin. Which might be a bit higher up on the scale if it didn't break my brain.
4 - They're probably doing it: Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan. They definitely loved each other, even if it wasn't a sexual relationship.
5 - What do you mean they're not?: Anakin/Obi-Wan. Painfully, bleedingly obvious. Also Luke/Leia, 'cause for kid-friendly movies there sure are a lot of plausible squick pairings.
6 - Canon: Han/Leia kicks Anakin/Padme's sorry behind.

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Damn you. I am so, so tempted to steal this meme now.
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amiorgyamislash ever.no subject
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...Up for it?
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(Me myself? I like Padme/Obi-Wan way a lot. And Luke/Leia = canon.)
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(And going into the realms of crackfic? If Harry got mysteriously transported back to 1944, he would so end up doing Tom Riddle.)
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Yeah, I have no problem believing it.
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