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Okay. So we know that Voldemort likes to attach significance to his Horcruxes, yes? He makes them out of significant objects, and presumably also significant kills. Now, what could be more significant to him than killing the kid who's prophesied to destroy him? I'm pretty sure Voldemort was intending to make a Horcrux the night he killed the Potters.

Now, I personally believe the Harry-is-a-Horcrux theory is a load of bollocks. Voldemort would never have done it intentionally, since he was trying to, y'know, kill Harry. I doubt he would have tried to make a Horcrux out of any part of baby Harry's dead body, as those tend to decompose and it's generally a stupid thing to do. And I am firmly of the belief that there is NO SUCH THING AS AN ACCIDENTAL HORCRUX DAMMIT. If it were possible to make a Horcrux without meaning to, there would be Horcruxes scattered about left and right from Death Eaters, wizarding serial killers, wizarding bad-motherf-shut-your-mouths, and the like, and it would be a documented phenomenon. Not to mention Voldemort seems able to control which object is made into a Horcrux, or whenever he killed someone bits of his soul would splatter into nearby objects and he wouldn't have a nice locket to hide away. Now, we don't know the technical details of how Horcruxes are made, but I'm guessing there's an incantation to be said before the murder that basically says "Hey, wand, I'm about to kill someone, so when I do could you kindly split my soul and put the split-off part into this object?" Now, Voldemort had no idea the spell was going to rebound on him--he thought he could just kill Harry, and so he had it all set up to make a Horcrux from this particular Avada Kedavra. And I'm guessing he had the object with him, and indicated that it would be the recipient of this specific bit of soul. Now, if the curse had just failed to kill Harry, everything would've been well and dandy and he would have had a perfectly useless object on his hands. But since the curse rebounded on him, he in a sense killed someone--himself--and so now there's a Horcrux lying around Godric's Hollow at the site of the Potters' old house. And I'm guessing that since it was himself that he killed, this Horcrux will have some strange, special magical properties caused by that interesting bit of recursion. I'll go a bit further out on a limb here and say that it was probably the Gryffindor artifact, and it might have had something to do with why he was going to let Lily live--some magical property, maybe, that she had more information about and that he wanted to torture out of her afterwards.

The upshot of all this being that Harry is going to go back to Godric's Hollow in Book 7--standard to the hero profile, going back to the place you came from--and he's going to find a Horcrux there. Who knows, maybe he followed the same line of reasoning and that's why he wants to go. But in any case, I think most of this is a pretty safe bet on part of what will happen in Book 7.

Thoughts?

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Very interesting. Veeeeeery interesting.

Thank you. Thank you. At last somebody who thinks the same way about this Harry-is-a-Horcrux crap, cause that's what it is. A pile of cowdung. Can I quote you in future reference? You put it so nicely.

I like your idea on the last Horcrux, the question I asked myself however was if Voldemort really would use something from Gryffindor. Either he really wanted something from all houses, or he refused to take something that remotely had something to do with Gryffindor. I really don't have an answer to that cause I really don't know. Knowing Voldemort though, he'll probably overlook the fact that it's Gryffindor and give in to his pride and just use something from all houses.

I'm also 100% sure that there's someting we don't know about Lily/Snape and Lily/Remus (in a non-ship way). Cause a) I don't think JKR would have allowed Alfonso Cuaron give Lupin such an important thing to say (when Harry and Lupin are on the bridge and he talks about Harry's mum) when there was nothing to it (here I have to say that I don't believe that the movies are canon, but would you as an author let something so big be put in if it had no significance??) and b) the whole scene Harry sees in the Pensieve about his Dad and Co. taunting Snape.

Ah well. We'll see.

Hmmmm, I don't actually think Voldemort is particularly spiteful towards Gryffindors just for the sake of it. I mean, there's obviously the rivalry, but his real hatred seems to be focused on Muggles, not Gryffindors, and I don't think he'd turn up his nose at the chance to make a Horcrux out of a Gryffindor artifact. But depending on whose terms the seventh book will be on--Harry's or Voldemort's--I definitely think the last Horcrux will either be a Gryffindor or Slytherin artifact, and I think the artifact might have been surreptitiously alluded to or mentioned in previous books. It would of course have greater significance for Harry and for the series for the last Horcrux to be a Gryffindor item, but I think Voldemort would treasure the Slytherin artifact above all the others and make it both the most important and the most heavily guarded. I also think there might be a sort of appropriateness in the protections around each Founder's Horcrux--the Hufflepuff one, for example, required teamwork and loyalty, so I'm guessing there will be a test of knowledge to get the Ravenclaw Horcrux, a test of sheer, stupid bravery for the Gryffindor one, and a test of cunning for the Slytherin one. Maybe the Godric's Hollow Horcrux isn't even there anymore--maybe Voldemort remembered it, retrieved it, and set up fortifications. Or maybe he and Harry will get there at the same time. I don't know.

I totally agree!

I'm even thinking maybe if V. had kill James before Harry, maybe he made a Horcrux out of that kill? But what I don't know.

Hmmm, but unless James had some special significance that hasn't been revealed yet, he was probably waiting to kill Harry to make his Horcrux--he only planned for seven, after all. Methinks he would've considered James too unimportant--getting rid of a pesky thorn in his side on the way to the real prize. But it's possible.