Road trips! Costumes! OH GOD NEW OTP.

[tenlittlebullets]

So, Eljay, I would babble all about Who fandom shenanigans, but it is currently 2:30am and I have to be up at 7:30 for a SPRING BREAK ROAD TRIP. filia_belialis and I are in for a week (...give or take) of mayhem, geekery, exploring creepy abandoned places in Pennsylvania, possibly fireworks, and lots of sleeping in the car. On the list: the Great Barrington fairgrounds on our way out of Massachusetts, Centralia, an old coal breaker in Mahanoy City, the Richmond Power Station in Philadelphia, and anything else we find along the way. Internet situation will probably be tenuous--not that I ever update anymore anyway.

...okay fine, Who fandom shenanigans, in bullet points:

- Yes, I have a weeping angel costume underway for Conbust. It might be way too elaborate for my pathetically non-crafty self, but the prospect of getting to terrify people by just lurking in corners standing very very still is ample motivation.

- Finished season 3! Um, so many thoughts. SO MANY. Will not try to pretend I wasn't shipping Doctor/Master starting from the phone conversation in Sound of Drums. They're just so--sjkl;jasdfsd wonderfully fucked up. And I want every single song used in those two eps. Also Martha is the BAMFiest BAMF ever and as much as I want to see her shag Ten senseless, my love for her went through the goddamn ROOF at the ending.

- Construction had already begun on the angel costume by the time I finished s3, otherwise I would've said "fuck that, too much work" and gone as the Master. Because after the initial fangirling had worn off a tiny bit, I realized I have John Simm's hair, or will by the time Conbust rolls around, and why waste a golden opportunity to cosplay a gleefully deranged Time Lord?

- ...however if I get sick of having shit visibility and lugging a pair of foamboard wings around on my back, I might swap it out for a business suit and a laser screwdriver just for an afternoon. If only for the idea of a weeping angel tearing its face off to reveal the Master in disguise. "Oh no! You are being pursued by a psychotic alien who can and will fuck up your personal timeline beyond repair! It pulls off its mask and... you are still being pursued by a psychotic alien who can and will fuck up your personal timeline beyond repair."

- It has been decided that the Who fandom equivalent of dead-baby jokes = dead Gallifrey jokes. Which of course the Master tells the Doctor just to rile him up in the AU where he actually ends up locked in the Tardis.

Q: How many Time Lords does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Just... *sob* One.

Q: What's even more beautifully red and orange than the skies of Gallifrey?
A: The skies of Gallifrey as it blows up!

Q: What's the difference between the Holy Grail and the last Time Lord in existence?
A: The Doctor doesn't have the Holy Grail locked up in his Tardis.
...as far as we know, that is.

Comments

[ariastar.livejournal.com]

Have a fabulous road trip! she says, belatedly, since you are probably already gone.

I don't care where you actually are in Who when I turn up, we are sitting around and having ALL THE FANGIRL CONVERSATIONS. I will probably subject you to an enthusiastic monologue on Doctor/Master through the ages so, uh, sorry about that! In compensation I can give you all the music from Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords.

"Oh no! You are being pursued by a psychotic alien who can and will fuck up your personal timeline beyond repair! It pulls off its mask and... you are still being pursued by a psychotic alien who can and will fuck up your personal timeline beyond repair."

I am a big fan of this! Y'know, in a terrified way.

Now I want to write fic about the Doctor having the Holy Grail locked up in his TARDIS.

[mmebahorel.livejournal.com]

I was so happy when John Simm turned up because I sort of had a crush on him from State of Play. Surprisingly, that has not been totally ruined by the Master. Probably helps that I had Life on Mars to go back to *g*.

Sadly, you have to get through Kylie Minogue as fake!Rose before you get Donna being way more awesome than she was in Runaway Bride (I didn't like her in Runaway Bride). There are some compensations in that Christmas special, but it really comes down to Kylie Minogue as character very similar to Rose and thus driving me crazy. (I hated all the shippy stuff in series 2 and that the Doctor was all piney when he had Martha right in front of him. Go her for not putting up with that crap.)

[icicaille.livejournal.com]

Doctor/Master is one of my all-time favorite OTPs. They are just DELICIOUSLY fucked-up, but obviously care (in a strange, also fucked-up way) for each other... It's wonderful. Things get even more subtext-y in The End of Time, so watch for that! (You know... I'd actually say it starts to pervade the text at that point.)

Martha gets so much hate in fandom, but I honestly cannot fathom why. She's such a strong, awesome character. Okay, yeah, sometimes her unrequited love for the Doctor got a little pathetic and she started to pine over him, but HELLO - she left him at the end of S3 because she realized just that! If that isn't strong and awesome, I don't know what is.

[ulkis.livejournal.com]

Does she?? I haven't really seen much hate, but I haven't penetrated too far into the general Doctor Who realm . . . I have to think that whoever doesn't like Martha is jus jeallus of her ridiculously hot self.

[icicaille.livejournal.com]

I haven't been v. active in fandom lately, but yeah, she does get an inordinate volume of hate. I think a good deal of it is rooted in racism, but there's also the fact that she was the first post-Rose companion, so a lot of Rose fanatics probably tend to dislike her simply due to that.

[ulkis.livejournal.com]

I was just joking before, but I really do think the dislike can also be due to the fact that Freema/Martha is downright stunning, and Rose is weird looking (imho). (I don't mean to rag on her looks at all - I like all the companions.)

[mmebahorel.livejournal.com]

I completely agree with you there!

She was the first post-Rose companion and was in love with the Doctor, and was good looking. Oh, and she was more intelligent in a book-smart way, so of course those who were too attached to Rose/Doctor felt a need to denigrate the attractive doctor who took her place. Donna was never competition in the same way, being a middle-aged temp.

But yes, lots of Martha hate in the vocal part of fandom-at-large. Yes, I liked Martha better than Rose, but I didn't hate Rose so much as hate the annoying people who hated Martha and I really disliked how much time and effort on the show were spent on shippy stuff between Rose and Ten. (and I felt sorry for Mickey the whole time, too, because Mickey was awesome and deserved better; Martha didn't have these kinds of issues with her storyline. And I still want Martha to come in and take over Torchwood because she is awesome and I miss her!)

[ulkis.livejournal.com]

Oh, and she was more intelligent in a book-smart way,

I forgot about that factor as well! I agree that that was a part of the hate as well.

I really disliked how much time and effort on the show were spent on shippy stuff between Rose and Ten.

Yeah, I liked Rose and Nine as partners more.

(and I felt sorry for Mickey the whole time, too, because Mickey was awesome and deserved better

I like Mickey, but I like to ignore that he and Martha hooked up because it felt a little too much like "Ten and Rose's 'rejects' settle for each other". My favorite Mickey moment was Nine's season finale and Rose said, "I can't sit here and eat chips" and Mickey replied, "why not, that's what the rest of us do."

[mmebahorel.livejournal.com]

I like Mickey/Martha from Mickey's perspective, less from Martha's. It feels less "rejects settle for each other" in that direction, to me, probably because Martha is awesome.

If you notice, after Martha, we're back to mostly working-class companions. Kylie Minogue waitress, Donna, Wilf, Amy (I think - or at least I assume from the whole Kiss-a-gram thing, and I haven't seen the full season because I got pissed off at detail changes and am finally starting again, maybe, because Karen Gillan is incredibly attractive) - it looks like Lindsey Duncan is the only one educationally close to Martha, and she's "old". It's like Martha was an experiment that didn't work out, and the lesson was not just "only use cute white chicks" but also "the Doctor must not be in a position be challenged with any sort of authority by the companion if she's to stick around for the whole season".

But then, I don't know what I want or expect from the series, so I don't know how much I'm bothered by that. I think I'm just still bitter that Martha was awesome and I wanted more than one season with her. this isn't like Torchwood where better is expected because hello, Rusty, you created Queer as Folk. That is why you don't get a pass! You're the one who taught us to expect better! (Yes, I have Children of Earth issues. Still. Probably forever.)

Anyway, wow, hijacking Marianne's LJ :)

[ulkis.livejournal.com]

I like Mickey/Martha from Mickey's perspective, less from Martha's. It feels less "rejects settle for each other" in that direction, to me, probably because Martha is awesome.

True. I admit I also liked Martha with Tom on a shallow level - Tom was incredibly hot. I don't care if we knew next to nothing about him. :) (Besides, my other favorite couple is Sally and her friend's bro, so obviously I don't need to spend too much time to pronounce them my favorite. :) )

the lesson was not just "only use cute white chicks" but also "the Doctor must not be in a position be challenged with any sort of authority by the companion if she's to stick around for the whole season".

Ack, so true. Although to be fair to Donna she wasn't a teen/early twentysomething so I think that deviates somewhat. And I haven't watched all of the episodes but I hear Amy is rebellious? Or at least, she chooses her boyfriend over the doctor.

I think I'm just still bitter that Martha was awesome and I wanted more than one season with her.

Agreed. Hopefully they'll air her torchwood episodes on cable channels I get someday. (Too lazy to use illegal means.) But who knows, the beauty of Who is that someone can come back whenever.)

[icicaille.livejournal.com]

Haha, no, I agree! I think Freema is the most beautiful of the Doctor's companions by far (although Amy has gorgeous hair), which must garner a lot of resentment from Rose stans.

[ulkis.livejournal.com]

I am all about the Martha/Tom action. I know he was in like one episode but good God he was pretty. And Martha is prettier. Thus, the prettiest couple ever. Although I am not opposed to Martha/Ten.

I have a fic rec! Ten and Martha meet Scarlett O'Hara, it is awesome. I forget if she and Ten are hooking up. They probably are, cause I know the author is a fan of them.