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Ten Little Chances to be Free ([personal profile] tenlittlebullets) wrote2011-07-15 04:02 am
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Getting my fix.

So. No new Doctor Who until the fall. I finished all of new!Who months ago. And while rewatching old series 3 episodes I got that Pavlovian "YAY IT IS WHO TIME what happens neeeext" response to the theme tune and was sad because I knew what happened next. I need some way to feed the beast. Clearly the logical place to go from here is to descend upon Classic Who and watch a bunch of old Three/Delgado serials, and so, being a sensible and logical person, I... pirated some BFA audios with Eight? IDEK.

No regrets, though. None. Because as far as I can tell, the BFA audios consist of the whole crew of new!Who fanboy writers banding together to make it up to Paul McGann for the ridiculousness of the TV movie. I mean, I am still completely up for Classic Who and would love some recommendations, but right now the two warring factions in my head are "WANT TO LISTEN TO THE NEXT ONE" and "you really should not start another two-hour audio at three in the morning." I was iffy about the whole audio idea--I am not a books-on-tape person, and I'd downloaded Dead Air but never got more than twenty minutes in because the premise was cool but the narration just felt awkward. These are different. They're all dialogue and sound effects--it feels like watching an episode with the video switched off, only written in a way that you can follow the action.

And so I leave you a recommendation and a download link: The Chimes of Midnight. It's Christmas 1906 (or is it?) and the TARDIS lands smack in the middle of a very strange murder mystery where nothing adds up, time moves oddly, and the victims don't stay dead.

Reasons you need this in your life:
- You don't actually need to know anything about Eight and Charley, except that she's an Edwardian adventuress who met Eight aboard a doomed airship.
- Eight. I love Eight. I've been exposed to all of, what, a few audios and a crappy movie with him? And I might just love him more than any of the new!Who Doctors, even Ten. Yeah, I said it.
- It's written by Rob Shearman, who wrote the season 1 'Dalek' episode. I can't say too much without spoiling everything, but near the end of this one he takes up similar knotty themes of humanity, life, sentience, and compassion, and the result is just as powerful.
- Remember everything that was wonderful about Moffat's writing during RTD's run, before half of fandom started hating him? This has it in spades. It's creepy as hell (don't listen to it in the dark, just don't), full of black humor, and leans to the wibbly-wobbly side of timey-wimey. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Moffat learned some of his tricks from Shearman--he certainly reuses at least one of them in one of his comedy sketches.
- I... I just... think of it as the glorious bastard offspring of Father's Day, Blink, Dalek, and The Doctor's Wife. Now go listen to it.

[identity profile] sophiedegrouchy.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Eiiiight audios! They are made of so much joy and Paul McGann's voice should probably be illegal. I've listened to a handful (incl. Chimes) and just found a giant stash but can't download any of them for the next three weeks thanks to my current internet restrictions and it's killing me to have them right there in front of me because Paul McGann.

I will seriously be prepared to forgive the Moff for any past, present, future, probable, and imagined crimes if he finds a way to do a good job of bringing McGann back in 2013. (Have you seen any of the interviews over the past few years where PMG talks about how much he wishes they would invite him to have a special appearance in the show? It really does break my little heart.)

As for Three serials, I love them all so but admit that they're not the easiest to get into. The pacing takes some getting used to. All of S8 is basically Three being stuck on Earth while Delgado messes with him (minus Colony in Space, which takes place in...space...and features the famous half-share in the Universe offer), so the beginning of that is a good place to start. And then there is SEA DEVILS and by the way SEA DEVILS in S9. I might recommend going back and watch S7's The Silurians beforehand, though. It's not totally essential to the plot and there's no Delgado yet, but it's related, very good, and has fun ties to 11.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I love pretty much everything about Eight, up to and including his way of seeming terribly vulnerable and squishy up until it turns out he's actually a sneaky manipulative bastard. And oh, Paul McGann's voice. I will be super-disappointed if 2013 doesn't bring a multi-Doctor extravaganza with lots and lots of McGann. I also want to see the recent-ish Doctors interacting--at the very least, Ten dissing Eleven's bowtie and Eleven dissing Ten's emo and both of them acting a bit weird around Eight because he is after all the one who ended up making Gallifrey go boom.

...actually, temporal shenanigans caused by the Time War would be a great way for Moff to get multiple Doctors together and do what he does best: tie time in eleven-dimensional knots and scare the pants off his viewers. And we'd get Eight.

Yay, classic recs! I think City of Death is actually first on my list, because it seems to be unanimously considered awesome, but afterwards I will go back and watch all the Three/Delgado.

(Any chance of passing on the giant BFA stash? I've been using a search engine that trawls other people's uploads to Megaupload/Rapidshare/etc, but there are a bunch it can't find.)

[identity profile] sophiedegrouchy.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if all the links still work or not, but check under the audios tag on b_e. There's a locked post that has lots and lots and lots of BFA courtesy of an anonymous "fandom Jesus." No Gallifrey or New 8 Adventures, but it looked pretty darn complete otherwise. I very much hope that I'm not wrong about this...

Eccleston has said that he won't come back for a special, right? I'm not making that up? w/e w/e he can be that way all he wants so long as there is Eight to be had. It'll be interesting to see if they let him use the new costume that he's concocted - which is, in my personal canon, the same as wondering how tragically Time-War-y they'll make him, seeing as I'm firmly convinced that something Big And Bad would have to happen for the Doctor to so drastically change his personal style.

I haven't actually seen City of Death. Started with New, did Shalka and Eight, tried and failed to watch Unearthly Child, then went back to War Games and have been working my way through Three from there. (Hint: I have since read that taking Two from War Games is a bad plan. I'm inclined to think that such opinions are very probably right.) Plus whatever Eight BFA's I managed to get my paws on before leaving.

2013: the year I will graduate or the year I might pleasepleasepleasefinally get some good, thoroughly canonical Eight? I'll feel so much less stupid about loving him so if I have more than a handful of illegitimate audios and the glorious shitfest that is the TVM.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-07-19 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh god thank you so much for pointing me to the b_e audios post! ALL THE EIGHT YAY.

And yeah, Eccleston is pretty adamant that Who was a one-time engagement. Which is sad because Niiiine I love you Nine, but pretty understandable given the way the show can eat up an actor's life/career/etc.

Not sure I'm sold on Eight's new costume though--I mean, leather frock coat is awesome, but I adore his original getup and I like the idea of the end of the Time War being this huge traumatic break. On the other hand--tragic Time War Eight. *wibble*

Haven't actually seen any Classic Who besides Time Monster and the beginning of Mind of Evil, so I think I'll do a sampling of all the Doctors (or at least Three, Four, and Five) and then settle in for a nice sequential marathon of whoever I like best. And anytime you're back on the East Coast I would be fully in favor of meeting up for Classic marathons/Shalka drinking games/fangirl cackling/cracktastic Les Mis crossovers/etc.

[identity profile] sophiedegrouchy.livejournal.com 2011-07-22 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
YAY.

I've read that McGann has said that he would refuse to come back if they jammed a wig on his head again, and I'm not sure I can imagine the cravat-y approach with a different head on top of it. But we'll see. We very much hope.

Can that pleasepleaseplease happen? It's been too long since I've been able to be unashamedly stupid with people face-to-face. I'm debating with myself if I can make the DC meetup or not. On one hand: yay! On the other: it's shortly before my midterms and I'm hesitant to put any crimps in bar-visiting plans less than a month before my 21st. But another excuse for dorking around would be fantaaaaastic.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-07-22 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, fair enough on the wig. It's just very hard to edit my mental image of Eight as a batty Victorian eccentric--I'm sure if there were actual canon with him in a different costume it'd be easier.

Oh, there absolutely must be dorking around, whether or not it involves bars or the DC meetup. When are you back in NJ? I'm sure I could make it up there for a weekend sometime.

[identity profile] ulkis.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I love that you love Eight. That is all. Also you have sold me on the audio, I will check it out. I'm a sporadic Who follower, but I do love dipping into that verse once in a while.

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-07-15 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Eight is looooove. And Chimes of Midnight has... not everything I love about the Who-verse, but a lot of it.

[identity profile] lovemoony4ever.livejournal.com 2011-07-16 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the rec and link! I'm a fan of Paul McGann from his days in Hornblower, so I've been thinking pf giving them a try. However, like you, I'm very much not into audios (the notable exception being BBC's Sherlock Holmes radio plays, for they are GLORIOUS), so I haven't gotten around to it yet. Hopefully this post will work as an incentive!

[identity profile] 10littlebullets.livejournal.com 2011-07-19 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, Paul McGann was in Hornblower? Add another item to the list of reasons I need to watch that...

Having dug a bit further into the BFA Doctor Who audios, some of them are pretty crap, but some like Chimes of Midnight are incredible.

[identity profile] lovemoony4ever.livejournal.com 2011-07-19 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Very much so, he plays Lieutenant Bush in the last four movies, one of the three major characters (and my favourite). You really need to watch the series, it's amazing! My DVDs never fails to cheer me up:)